Celebrating Mass Circumcision
Posted by Paul on 30th March 2009
Man, I’ve been slacking on blogging lately- at least here. I’ve still been writing my FAA-related blogs on www.faafollies.com but not so much here.
So here’s a little tidbit for travelers. Low cost carriers!
An LCC is an airline that’s basically like your Southwest or AirTran- one that typically flies a single class of jetliner, has higher load factors than “legacy” carriers, and doesn’t offer much in service. The good news is that their tickets are frequently much less expensive than a typical carrier (sometimes called “mainline” in addition to “legacy” or “network” carriers.)
GG and I flew on a couple of LCC to/from Phuket/Bangkok on our last trip to Thailand. Ordinarily we would take Thai Airways, since they have a reciprocal deal with United, but she doesn’t get the discount since she’s on furlough right now.
From Bangkok to Phuket, we flew on Air Asia. They’re an aggressively growing LCC, based primarily in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. They also have “Thai Air Asia” and “Indonesia Air Asia”, but they’re all branded the same, use the same website and advertising, and the difference is primarily for technical reasons having to do with being owned/operated in the particular nation in question.
Air Asia seemed easy to deal with upfront. Like many LCC in other nations, they tend to have a base rate for the ticket, and then tack on additional fees for anything and everything under the sun that they can. Want to check a bag? Pay extra. Want to board the aircraft before everyone else? Pay extra. Want a predesignated seat assignment? Pay extra.
In our case, since we travel pretty light (a backpack and a rollaboard carryon each), we can get by pretty easy on the fees. I did do the “Hot Seat” service, which costs an extra 250 Thai baht (about 7 bucks). I was pretty disappointed in it. Not the seat picking; that was nice, we snagged row 2 (the first three rows are their “Hot Seats”) so getting off was quick and easy when we arrived.
But Air Asia also advertises “Xpress Boarding” with the seat selection- and that was a crock of shit. The problem is that the plane was at what they call a “remote gate”, meaning you go through the terminal to a gate… and then instead of going down a jetway onto the plane, you go out a door onto the ramp area, get on a bus, and are driven out to where the plane is parked.
In our case that was about a 5 minute ride across the airport to a big open area where several of their planes were parked. That alone wasn’t so bad, but their gate agents did absolutely NOTHING to keep order in the line. As a result, this asshole with a big group from France cut in the line right in between Ginger and I. The bus was a crazy mad crush of people… just a real goatroap.
As a result, if we can help it, we’ll be skipping Air Asia until we hear they’ve gotten their stuff together. It’s kind of a cultural thing- Luis mentioned the differences between different nations a few days back in his blog- but I don’t like having to put up with it.
From Phuket back to Bangkok, we flew on Nok Air. They use the “old” Bangkok airport, Don Muang. (The newer airport, Suvarnabhumi, is only a few years old.) They were considerably better; I even left a couple of brand-new suits in a carryon in the plane’s closet and didn’t remember them until we’d gotten to the hotel, by which time everyone had gone home for the evening. The next day, I called the airline and they wound up tracking down the bag and holding it for me at the airport; a 400 baht (11 dollar) taxi ride out and back and I had my new suits (I bought two while I was in Phuket).
One thing about LCC; they tend to not be listed in the big international computer databases for flights. For example, if you go to Travelocity, you’re using the reservation system that started life (decades ago) as “SABRE“, the computer/res system that was started by and used to be owned by American Airlines. They later spun SABRE off onto its own, and it’s grown and evolved into the database and the Travelocity travel agency.
(SABRE has an interesting history. I used to use it back when it was still a command-line interface type of system, and you had to know the various commands for searching into the database. It was pretty cool.)
Right now, if I do a search on Travelocity for a round trip from Seattle to Denver, Southwest Airlines doesn’t come up. They don’t pay the same fees as the mainline carriers do, so they’re not always listed in online databases.
There is a terrific web page at Wikipedia, though, that lists LCC for the entire world. This list of low-cost carriers goes by country, so say you’re planning a trip from Singapore to Bali, Indonesia (as we are for next month).
You go to the listing and look for the LCC in Singapore and find Jetstar; Tiger Airways; and Valuair. A quick read of the Wikipedia articles on each airline shows that Jetstar owns Valuair now, so there are effectively two LCC listed for Singapore.
Since we’re going round trip, I also look at Indonesia, and find multiple carriers. Now I’ve got a nice listing of carriers to search to see what kind of ticket prices I can get.
The price difference can be significant. For our proposed dates of flying SIN-DPS (Singapore to Denpasar Airport on Bali) on April 21, and DPS-SIN on April 25, the web site Kayak.com (which, by the way, I strongly recommend as one of the very best airfare searching sites- they not only hit the big services like Travelocity and Expedia, but also search the airlines’ own reservation/pricing services) produces round-trip pricing of $535 on Malaysian Airlines.
Jetstar, on the other hand, has a SIN-DPS flight for 80 Singapore dollars, which converts to $52.55 US dollars. They don’t have any flights available on the 25th, but Lion Airways (an Indonesian carrier) has a flight for 49,000 Indonesian rupiahs- which converts to an almost-too-low-to-believe $4.26 US! The flight schedule sucks, though- midnight departure, 3am arrival in Singapore. Yuck, no wonder it’s so cheap.
Lion Air’s site is a perfect example, though, of what you might be getting in an LCC. They have a web page that brags:
Circumcision of 1500 kids at Taman Mini Indonesia Indah
On June 30, 2004, Lion Air celebrated the third anniversary by holding a mass circumcision for more than 1500 kids lived around Jakarta area at Taman Mini Indonesia Indah. The event was being noted at Museum Record of Indonesia.
Now, maybe something went awry in the translation… but I suspect it means exactly what it says. So yeah, you probably should consider these airlines’ safety records and cultural attitudes at least a little bit!
The point here is that you can’t search just the typical web sites and come up with the best fares; you have to do a little digging, but they’re out there if you have a good starting point.
Another great way to search is to dig around on the net for the web page for the airport in question you’re heading to/from. This way, you can find (for example) flights between Singapore and Bali. More importantly, you get the names of all the airlines doing those flights- so you can go to their individual web sites and keep looking for a good deal on airfare.
Now, all this might seem like a lot of work, but when you compare a total round-trip airfare possibility of about 57 dollars (like I found above) to over 500, you realize pretty quick that it can pay off to do some searching!
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